Toto Neorest vs Kohler Veil – Which is the Best?
Toto Neorest and Kohler Veil are 2 of the best bidet toilet combos/integrated toilets and bidets. But what is the difference between these 2 high-end toilets and which one is the best?
To starts with, there are several models of the Toto Neorest toilets but in this case we will focus on the Toto Neorest 750H and Toto Neorest 700H.
The only difference between Toto Neorest 750H and 700H is that Toto Neorest 750H’s bowl has a photocatalytic glaze that cleans the toilet periodically, activated by a UV light underneath the bidet seat’s lid. Toto Neorest 700H does not have this feature. Read more on that here.
There are also 2 types of the Kohler Veil intelligent toilet. A floor-mounted Kohler veil and a wall-mounted Kohler Veil. Both have similar features.
The main difference between Toto Neorest and Kohler Veil is that the Kohler Veil is curvaceous, sleeker and more compact than the Toto Neorest with a depth of 26 inches compared to Toto Neorest’s 31 inches. Kohler Veil also uses a stainless steel nozzle while Toto Neorest uses a plastic one.
Toto Neorest however has a bowl premist feature and an automatic flush, both of which are absent in the Kohler Veil.
Toto Neorest vs Kohler Veil Comparison Table
|Featre||Toto Neorest||Kohler Veil|
|Nozzle type||Single, plastic||Single, stainless steel|
|Auto lid open/close|
|Spray width adjustment|
|Warm air drying|
|Adjustable water pressure and temperature|
|Wireless remote control|
|Flush rate||0.8/1 GPF||0.8/1.28 GPF|
|Dimensions (D X W X H)||31.437 x 17.625 x 20.75 inches||26.125 x 17.25 x 21 inches|
Toto Neorest 700H
This is the cheaper (by far) of the 2 Neorest 700s and the only difference between it and the 750H is the extra UV light self-cleaning feature. All heir other features are similar.
Toto Neorest 750H
If you need the extra self-cleaning feature of the Toto Neorest 750H over the 700H then this is it. Be prepared however to pay premium for it.
This is a beautiful, well designed and compact toilet. I especially really like its cleansing features especially the feminine wash.
Let us mow look at a more detailed analysis of both of these toilets
While both of these toilets are beautifully designed, in my opinion the Kohler Veil has an edge over the Toto Neorest. It is the most beautiful toilet in the market by a mile.
From the top of the seat going down to the base of the toilet the Kohler Veil is so smooth without any nooks and crannies. Its body is beautifully curved and smooth like a mirror. If you are big on aesthetics then the Kohler Veil is the the toilet for you.
2. Bidet Nozzles
Both Toto Neorest and Kohler have an integrated bidet seat that does everything you would expect from a high-end bidet seat. What is the difference between their bidet seat and nozzles though?
The main difference is that Toto Neorest uses a single plastic nozzle while Kohler Veil uses a single stainless steel nozzle. This is however not surprising given that Toto has always used plastic nozzles even for their high-end washlets like the Toto S550e washlet.
I don’t mean to say that the Toto Neorest’s nozzle is inferior to that of the Kohler Veil, it is just that I find it easier and quick to clean a stainless steel nozzle than a plastic one.
Both of these nozzles offer rear/posterior wash as well as front/feminine wash. With the Toto Neorest, you can choose between front wide, front narrow, rear wide and rear narrow spray options.
A narrow spray options is stronger and cleans over a specific spot while a wide spray wash option cleans over a wide area and is gentler. It is especially preferred for the feminine wash.
The Kohler Veil nozzle is a little different from the Toto Neorest’s. Its feminine wash instead of one large hole has 72 fine holes which I believe most ladies will absolutely fall in love with.
The Veil’s wide spray option is also different in the sense that the water spray spirals to clean over a wide area. I genuinely believe the Kohler Veil does a better cleansing job than the Toto Neorest.
Both of these toilets’ nozzles offer oscillating and pulsating wash functions. The oscillating wash is when the nozzle moves back and forth rapidly to clean over a large surface area. Pulsating wash involves the use of alternating strong and weak sprays to create a massaging sensation.
The 2 nozzles can be adjusted back and forth to hit different spots as desired. You can also adjust the temperature and pressure of the water.
The water used by both of these toilets is infused with bubbles in a process known as aeration. This allows for a thorough but gentle cleansing.
3. Ewater+ Bowl Premist
This feature is present in the Toto Neorest but absent in the Kohler Veil. What is Ewater bowl premist to start with?
Before using the toilet, Toto Neorest sanitizes the bowl using electrolyzed water, a technology Toto refers to us Ewater+.
The same electrolyzed water used to sanitize the nozzle is also sprayed inside the toilet bowl, a process known as a premisting. This makes the bowl wet prior to you using it.
According to Toto, a wet bowl is more effective in waste elimination than a dry bowl. This is because it prevents waste from sticking on the surface of the bowl and you hence don’t need to scrub with a brush later or even flush twice.
Kohler Veil does not have the bowl premist feature but it sanitizes its nozzles a little differently. It uses sterilized water to disinfect the nozzle after each use. Apart from that, an automatic UV light will disinfect the nozzle after every 24 hours.
4. Actilight UV Light Cleaning
This features is only available in the Toto Neorest 750H and it is what sets it apart from the Toto Neorest 700H and also Neorest 550H and 500H. It also goes without saying that it is absent in the Kohler Veil.
This technology is what gives the Toto Neorest 750H the bragging rights of a self-cleaning toilet. In fact, Toto promises that it will remove visible and invisible dirt and grime.
Actilight cleaning technology does so by the use of a baked-in hydrophilic photocatalytic glaze/coating, Ewater and UV light. The UV light is located underneath the lid and will only turn on when the lid is down.
The UV light helps to break down the waste which is then washed down by the water. Due to the hydrophilic and smooth nature of the coating, it resists the adherence of waste which are hence easily washed down the drain.
This technology makes the Toto Neorest 750H a very pricey toilet, the reason most people opt to go with the Toto Neorest 700H or the Kohler Veil.
Most people feel like the Ewater+ technology combined with the usual Toto Cefiontect glaze is enough for a toilet. I agree with them. Even with the top technology, it does not mean that you will never have to clean the Neorest 750H. You will need to bend on it from time to time.
5. Auto Lid Opening and Closing
Both of these seats gives you the joy of a not having to touch the toilet lid to open it prior to using the toilet. They are fitted with motion sensors that will detect your movements towards the toilet and automatically open or close.
Not all people however enjoy this feature and some even prefer to disable it altogether. The reason is if for instance you go the bathroom with other intentions other than using the toilet, you will notice the lid lifting off which can be annoying.
You will hover notice that even after switching the feature off, opening and closing the seat/lid manually will be quite difficult. This is something that puts lots of people off. It works great if the toilet is in a cubicle of its own.
Kohler Veil is however designed in such a way that you can adjust the sensing distance. This prevents the lid from opening when you enter the bathroom, while all you wanted to do was take a shower.
6. Automatic Flushing
The automatic flush feature is only available in the Toto Neorest but missing in the Kohler Veil. This is why Toto Neorest toilets are the only ones that guarantees a complete hands-free experience from the time you enter the bathroom to the time you leave.
It may sound like a stupid thing to say buy you don’t even need to wash your hands after using these toilets. The auto flush is actually more reliable than what you might have experienced in a public toilet.
Toto Neorest toilets also have a backup manual flush too. You can do this from the wireless remote control or auxiliary buttons on the side of the toilet.
7. Flushing Systems
Both Toto Neorest and Kohler Veil are tankless toilets. They do not need a toilet tank since their flushing systems are pump-assisted. They draw water straight from the pipes which is then pumped in the bowl at a high enough pressure sufficient to flush the toilet.
Toto toilets are known for their strong flushing and the Toto Neorest is not different from the others. They use the Tornado flushing system which is powerful and also water-efficient.
The Tornado flushing system involves the use of a rimless bowl with 2 powerful nozzles on each side of the bowl where flush water enters the bowl. As soon as the water enters the bowl, its forms a whirlpool inside that is very effective in waste elimination as well as scrubbing and rinsing the bowl.
Kohler Veil also uses 2 powerful water jets, strategically positioned to push water down the trap to create a powerful siphon. Honestly speaking you will not have clogging issues with both of these toilets.
What you need to know is that Kohler Veil and Toto Neorest do not have a quiet flush if it is something you don’t like. The pump action makes the flushing to be quite noisy but after a while you get used to it.
Both of these toilets are dual flush toilets giving you the option to use less water to flush liquids. Toto Neorest uses 0.8/1 gallons per flush while Kohler Veil has a rating of 0.8/1.28 gallons per flush.
They are therefore compliant with the requirements by EPA’s WaterSense as well as CalGreen. California, Texas and Colorado residents can buy these toilets without restrictions.
8. Toilet Dimensions
The dimensions of a toilet are very important especially for people with a small bathroom. Let us compare the dimensions of both of these toilets.
The dimensions of the Toto Neorest are:
- Depth: 31.45 inches
- Width: 17.63 inches
- Height: 20.75 inches
- Seat height: 17.25 inches
- Rough-in: 12 inches
The dimensions of the Kohler Veil are
- Depth: 26.13 inches
- Width: 17.25 inches
- Height: 21 inches
- Seat height: 17.125 inches
- Rough-in: 12 inches
As you can see, Kohler Veil is more compact that Toto Neorest, making it a better option for people with a small bathroom.
Bother toilets are comfort height toilets and are hence compliant with the requirements of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA). Comfort height toilets are also easy to sit and stand from especially by the seniors as well as old folk.
9. Wireless Remote Control
The Toto Neorest comes with a robust dual-side remote control which is quite solid and sleek. This is in sharp contrast to the Kohler Veil’s remote which is quite simple, but very easy to use.
Toto Neorest’s remote control attaches magnetically to the remote which is really nice in case you want to just remove it and use the back side of it. You can also opt to buy the Toto Neorest remote stand, which will be position at the front of the toilet instead of turning to your side to access it.
It also comes with 2 user presents whereby you can save and forget your desires cleansing settings instead of having to select them every time you use the toilet. I really like the Toto Neorest remote control and you get the feeling the spent good time designing it.
Both Toto Neorest and Kohler Veil share other great features which work almost the same way. They include:
- Warm air drying
- Heated seat
- Air deodorizer
- Elongated toilet bowl
Toto Neorest 550H
The Main difference between the Toto Neorest 700H and 700H is that Toto Neorest 700H has a comfort/ADA height while Toto Neorest 550H has a standard height.
The 550H’s bowl is therefore shorter. If you don’t fancy a toilet toilet then the Neorest 550 is the toilet for you.