Toto Neorest Vs. Kohler Veil – Which is the Best?
Last Updated on October 2, 2023 by toilethaven
Toto Neorest and Kohler Veil are 2 of the best bidet toilet combos/integrated toilets and bidets. But what is the difference between these 2 high-end toilets and which one is the best?
First, there are several models of the Toto Neorest toilets, but in this case, we will focus on the Toto Neorest 750H and Toto Neorest 700H.
The only difference between Toto Neorest 750H and 700H is that Toto Neorest 750H’s bowl has a photocatalytic glaze that cleans the toilet periodically, activated by a UV light underneath the bidet seat’s lid. Toto Neorest 700H does not have this feature. Read more on that here.
There are also 2 types of the Kohler Veil intelligent toilet. A floor-mounted Kohler veil and a wall-mounted Kohler Veil. Both have similar features.
The main difference between the Toto Neorest and Kohler Veil is that the Kohler Veil is curvaceous, sleeker, and more compact than the Toto Neorest, with a depth of 26 inches compared to the Toto Neorest’s 31 inches. Kohler Veil also uses a stainless steel nozzle, while Toto Neorest uses a plastic one.
Toto Neorest, however, has a bowl premist feature and an automatic flush, both of which are absent in the Kohler Veil.
Toto Neorest vs. Kohler Veil Comparison Table
|Featre||Toto Neorest||Kohler Veil|
|Nozzle type||Single, plastic||Single, stainless steel|
|Auto lid open/close|
|Spray width adjustment|
|Warm air drying|
|Adjustable water pressure and temperature|
|Wireless remote control|
|Flush rate||0.8/1 GPF||0.8/1.28 GPF|
|Dimensions (D X W X H)||31.437 x 17.625 x 20.75 inches||26.125 x 17.25 x 21 inches|
Toto Neorest 700H
This is the cheaper (by far) of the 2 Neorest 700s, and the only difference between it and the 750H is the extra UV light self-cleaning feature. All their other features are similar.
- Water consumption: 1.0 gallons_per_flush
- Cyclone siphon jet flushing system, ultra-high efficiency (1.0GPF/3.8LPF and 0.8GPF/3.0LPF)
- Convenient remote control
Toto Neorest 750H
This is it if you need the extra self-cleaning feature of the Toto Neorest 750H over the 700H. Be prepared, however, to pay a premium for it.
- Toto MS993CUMFX#01 NEOREST 750H TOILET COTTON - ACTILIGHT
This is a beautiful, well-designed, and compact toilet. I especially really like its cleansing features, especially the feminine wash.
- Comfort Height offers chair-height seating (about 2-in Taller)
- Compact, streamlined 1-piece toilet with integrated bidet
- Toilet seat included with purchase
Let us now look at a more detailed analysis of both of these toilets
While both of these toilets are beautifully designed, in my opinion, the Kohler Veil has an edge over the Toto Neorest. It is the most beautiful toilet in the market by a mile.
From the top of the seat down to the base of the toilet, the Kohler Veil is smooth, without any nooks and crannies. Its body is beautifully curved and smooth, like a mirror. If you are big on aesthetics, then the Kohler Veil is the toilet for you.
2. Bidet Nozzles
Both Toto Neorest and Kohler have integrated bidet seat that does everything you would expect from a high-end bidet seat. What is the difference between their bidet seat and nozzles, though?
The main difference is that Toto Neorest uses a single plastic nozzle, while Kohler Veil uses a single stainless steel nozzle. This is, however, not surprising given that Toto has always used plastic nozzles, even for their high-end washlets like the Toto S550e washlet.
I don’t mean to say that the Toto Neorest nozzle is inferior to that of the Kohler Veil; it is just that I find it easier and quicker to clean a stainless steel nozzle than a plastic one.
Both of these nozzles offer rear/posterior wash as well as front/feminine wash. With the Toto Neorest, you can choose between front wide, front narrow, rear wide, and rear narrow spray options.
A narrow spray option is stronger and cleans over a specific spot, while a wide spray wash option cleans over a wide area and is gentler. It is especially preferred for the feminine wash.
The Kohler Veil nozzle is a little different from the Toto Neorest’s. Instead of one large hole, its feminine wash has 72 fine holes, which I believe most ladies will absolutely fall in love with.
The Veil’s comprehensive spray option is also different in the sense that the water spray spirals to clean over a wide area. I genuinely believe the Kohler Veil does a better cleansing job than the Toto Neorest.
Both of these toilets’ nozzles offer oscillating and pulsating wash functions. The oscillating wash is when the nozzle moves back and forth rapidly to clean over a large surface area. Pulsating wash involves the use of alternating strong and weak sprays to create a massaging sensation.
The two nozzles can be adjusted back and forth to hit different spots as desired. You can also adjust the temperature and pressure of the water.
The water used by both of these toilets is infused with bubbles in a process known as aeration. This allows for a thorough but gentle cleansing.
3. Ewater+ Bowl Premist
This feature is present in the Toto Neorest but absent in the Kohler Veil. What is the Ewater Bowl premist to start with?
Before using the toilet, Toto Neorest sanitizes the bowl using electrolyzed water, a technology Toto refers to as Ewater+.
The same electrolyzed water used to sanitize the nozzle is also sprayed inside the toilet bowl, a process known as a premisting. This makes the bowl wet prior to you using it.
According to Toto, a wet bowl eliminates waste more effectively than a dry bowl. This is because it prevents waste from sticking on the bowl’s surface, and you don’t need to scrub with a brush later or even flush twice.
Kohler Veil does not have the bowl premist feature but sanitizes its nozzles differently. It uses sterilized water to disinfect the nozzle after each use. Apart from that, an automatic UV light will disinfect the nozzle after every 24 hours.
4. Actilight UV Light Cleaning
This feature is only available in the Toto Neorest 750H, which sets it apart from the Toto Neorest 700H and the Neorest 550H and 500H. It also goes without saying that it is absent in the Kohler Veil.
This technology is what gives the Toto Neorest 750H the bragging rights of a self-cleaning toilet. Toto promises that it will remove visible and invisible dirt and grime.
Actilight cleaning technology does so by the use of a baked-in hydrophilic photocatalytic glaze/coating, Ewater, and UV light. The UV light is located underneath the lid and will only turn on when the lid is down.
The UV light helps to break down the waste, which is then washed down by the water. Due to the hydrophilic and smooth nature of the coating, it resists the adherence of waste, which is hence easily washed down the drain.
This technology makes the Toto Neorest 750H a very pricey toilet, the reason most people opt to go with the Toto Neorest 700H or the Kohler Veil.
Most people feel the Ewater+ technology combined with the usual Toto Cefiontect glaze is enough for a toilet. I agree with them. Even with the top technology, it does not mean that you will never have to clean the Neorest 750H. You will need to bend on it from time to time.
5. Auto Lid Opening and Closing
Both of these seats give you the joy of not having to touch the toilet lid to open it prior to using the toilet. They are fitted with motion sensors that will detect your movements towards the toilet and automatically open or close.
Not all people enjoy this feature; some even prefer deactivating it altogether. The reason is if, for instance, you go to the bathroom with intentions other than using the toilet, you will notice the lid lifting off, which can be annoying.
You will notice that even after switching the feature off, manually opening and closing the seat/lid will be quite difficult. This is something that puts lots of people off. It works great if the toilet is in a cubicle of its own.
Kohler Veil is, however, designed in such a way that you can adjust the sensing distance. This prevents the lid from opening when you enter the bathroom, while all you want to do is take a shower.
6. Automatic Flushing
The automatic flush feature is only available in the Toto Neorest but is missing in the Kohler Veil. This is why Toto Neorest toilets are the only ones that guarantee a complete hands-free experience from when you enter the bathroom to when you leave.
It may sound like a stupid thing to say, but you don’t even need to wash your hands after using these toilets. The auto flush is more reliable than what you might have experienced in a public toilet.
Toto Neorest toilets also have a backup manual flush. You can do this from the wireless remote control or auxiliary buttons on the side of the toilet.
7. Flushing Systems
Both Toto Neorest and Kohler Veil are tankless toilets. They do not need a toilet tank since their flushing systems are pump-assisted. They draw water straight from the pipes, which is then pumped into the bowl at a high enough pressure sufficient to flush the toilet.
Toto toilets are known for their strong flushing, and the Toto Neorest is not different from the others. They use the Tornado flushing system, which is powerful and also water-efficient.
The Tornado flushing system involves the use of a rimless bowl with two powerful nozzles on each side of the bowl where flush water enters the bowl. As soon as the water enters the bowl, it forms a whirlpool inside that is very effective in waste elimination and scrubbing and rinsing the bowl.
Kohler Veil also uses two powerful water jets strategically positioned to push water down the trap to create a powerful siphon. Honestly speaking, you will not have clogging issues with both of these toilets.
What you need to know is that Kohler Veil and Toto Neorest do not have a quiet flush if it is something you don’t like. The pump action makes the flushing to be quite noisy, but after a while, you get used to it.
Both of these toilets are dual flush toilets, allowing you to use less water to flush liquids. Toto Neorest uses 0.8/1 gallons per flush, while Kohler Veil has a rating of 0.8/1.28 gallons per flush.
Therefore, they comply with the requirements of EPA’s WaterSense and CalGreen. California, Texas, and Colorado residents can buy these toilets without restrictions.
8. Toilet Dimensions
The dimensions of a toilet are very important, especially for people with a small bathroom. Let us compare the dimensions of both of these toilets.
The dimensions of the Toto Neorest are:
- Depth: 31.45 inches
- Width: 17.63 inches
- Height: 20.75 inches
- Seat height: 17.25 inches
- Rough-in: 12 inches
The dimensions of the Kohler Veil are
- Depth: 26.13 inches
- Width: 17.25 inches
- Height: 21 inches
- Seat height: 17.125 inches
- Rough-in: 12 inches
As you can see, Kohler Veil is more compact than Toto Neorest, making it a better option for people with a small bathroom.
Other toilets are comfort-height toilets and are, hence, compliant with the requirements of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA). Comfort height toilets are also easy to sit and stand from, especially for seniors and old folk.
9. Wireless Remote Control
The Toto Neorest comes with a robust dual-side remote control, which is quite solid and sleek. This contrasts sharply with the Kohler Veil’s remote, which is simple but very easy to use.
Toto Neorest’s remote control attaches magnetically to the remote, which is nice if you want to remove it and use the backside. You can also opt to buy the Toto Neorest remote stand, which will be positioned at the front of the toilet instead of turning to your side to access it.
It also comes with two user presents whereby you can save and forget your desired cleansing settings instead of having to select them every time you use the toilet. I like the Toto Neorest remote control, and you get the feeling they spent a good time designing it.
Toto Neorest and Kohler Veil share other great features that work almost the same way. They include:
- Warm air drying
- Heated seat
- Air deodorizer
- Elongated toilet bowl
Toto Neorest 550H
The main difference between the Toto Neorest 700H and 700H is that the Toto Neorest 700H has a comfort/ADA height while the Toto Neorest 550H has a standard height.
The 550H bowl is, therefore, shorter. If you don’t fancy a toilet toilet, then the Neorest 550 is the toilet for you.
- Universal height and ADA compliant
- Required: 120V gfci outlet located within 4 feet of toilet
- TOTO cefiontect ceramic glaze gives the bowl a lubricious quality that prevents particles from adhering to help keep the toilet bowl cleaner